Johann Martin SEUBERT\SIVER

Male Abt 1674 - 1739  (~ 65 years)


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  • Name Johann Martin SEUBERT\SIVER  [1
    Born Abt 1674  Mannheim, Present Day Germany Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Gender Male 
    History Done by Naomi Dryden, Phoenix NY. Papers are in file. Name as listed in “The Palatine’s of New York State” by Hank Z. Jones Johann Martin Seubert.
    1. London Lists: Martin Seibert aged 35, his wife, a son aged 2 a daughter aged 4. Ref., husbandman and vinedresser, were in the 1st arrivals in England in 1709; they were noted one name from John Zeber aged 46 and his family.
    2. Hunter Rolls #716: Johann Martin Seubert , 2 pers over 10 yrs and 2 pers under 10 yrs..
    3. Albany Naturalizatiions: Johann Martin Seybert 13 Mar 1715/16 (next to Johan Jacob Seybert)
    4. "The Simmending Register" pg. 17 July 1709 Johann Martin Seiber and his wife Anna Marie and 3 children left the Rhine Palatinate for England and America. They were settled in the New Hayesbury Camp, which was one of four camps located on the East side of the Hudson River where Germantown is now located. The Simmendinger Register: Seibert, Johann Martin, (j) w. Anna Marie & 3 ch. (j) - Nere = Heesberg - Fuchsendorf.
    5. Stone Arabia Patent: Martin Seybert patentee 1723(additional documentation, John Krems Jacob Seyber...(and ) Anna Maria w/o John Bickels(was) said Martin Seybert’s daughter
    Lou MacWethy Palatine Records and Kocherthal records, Schoharie, NY.
    Lots #22 and 50 of the Stone Arabia Patent. From Schoharie to Mohawk Valley pg.163
    19 Oct 1723. 12,700 acres of land in Stone Arabia Patent granted to 27 individuals who had secured an indian title:
    Hans Deterick Cassalman, Lodowick Cassalman,William Copernall, Johannes Cromse,Warren Digart,
    Sufferinus Digart, Marden Dellinbeck, Adam Ensign, Johannes Ensign, Simon Erchart, Andreas Feink Christian Feink, Hendrick Frey, Elias Garlock ,John Christian Garlock, Theobold Garlock, Johannes Ingolt, John Lawyer, William Nelles, Andries Peiper, Bartholonew Rickard, Gerhart Schaffer, Jacob Schnele, John Jost Schnele, Johannes Schnele, Marden Seibert **William Vorks,
    pg. 164 includes Jacob Syber From an early map with 3 patentees Stone Arabia.
    6 Also, in the civil records of the town of Lambsheim, :
    "Sieverkaufen 28 Acker im Jahr 1708V, verkaufen 1709V ihr Haus. Herr Peter Josy oder Vielmehr Martin Seibert und Anna Maria verkaufen einen Acker 1709."
    Thus, Seibert's land was at least partially transferred in the crucial year of 1709. Note how the 1704 birth of Maria Elisabetha perfectly agrees with the age of the girl at London (4 years) in May 1907.

    http://www.fortklock.com/knittlesubsistence.htm
    reviewed 29 November 3003
    7 New York Subsistance List 1710 and 1712
    Seibert, Johann Martin 2-2, 2-2.

    http://www.fortklock.com/Knittlebdoftrade.htm viewed 29 November 2002

    Fort Klock Historic Restoration
    Early Eighteenth Century Palatine Emigration
    A British Government Redemptioner Project to Manufacture Naval Stores
    by Walter Allen Knittle, Ph.D.
    Department of History
    College of the City of New York
    Published Philadelphia, 1937

    The Board of Trade List of First Party of Palatines in London, May 3, 1709
    Note: In one place this list is referred to as May 6, 1709 and in another place May 3, 1709. ajberry
    This list is the first of four lists of Palatines compiled up to June 16, 1709 by Reverend John Tribbeko and Reverend George Andrew Rupterti. The four lists include only the first 6,000 of the Germans to arrive in that year. The lists which contain information on the age and occupation of the head of the family, numbers and age of the members of the family and religion, may be found in the Public Record Office, C. O. 388/76, 56 ii, 64, and 68-70. They have been published without change in the New York Genealogical and Biographical Records (New York, 1909 and 1910), XL, 49-54, 93-100, 160-167, 241-248; XLI, 10-19. They are also published in L. D. MacWethy, The Book of Names especially Relating to the Early Palatines and the First Settlers in the Mohawk Valley (St. Johnsville, New York, 1933) in an alphabetical order and an abridged form. In the latter version there are errors, which are excusable because of the nature of the material but the bad alphabetizing of the names is not to be regarded so lightly.

    Only the first of the four Board of Trade Lists (that of May 6, 1709) is included here because that group of 825 persons is unmentioned in the Embarkation Lists from Holland, which are here given in Appendix C. They were sent, as related in Chapter III, before the arrangement, by which the British government financed their passage to London, was well worked out. This first Board of Trade List given below has been carefully alphabetized, but the information given as to occupation, religion and age has not bee included here for a number of reasons: 1) it is accessible elsewhere, 2) it would crowd an already lengthy Appendix, 3) it would not conform to the Embarkation Lists which it is intended to supplement here. The abbreviation w. denotes the presence of the wife.

    # Seibert, Conrad-w. 1 son, 1 dau
    # Seibert, Martin-w. 1 son, 1 dau

    http://www.archive.org/stream/newyorkgenealogi89newy#page/50/mode/2up
    The New York genealogical and biographical record
    January 1909
    Vol XL No 1 page 50
    lists Martin Seibert (image in gendocs) 
    Died 16 Jul 1739  Neuheesbert: Stone Arabia Patent, New York Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Person ID I358  Clancy Ancestors
    Last Modified 4 Sep 2015 

    Father GATHER 
    Mother Margaret GRIGGS 
    Family ID F784  Group Sheet

    Father SEUBERT\SIVER 
    Family ID F434  Group Sheet

    Family Anna Maria,   b. 1679, Assenheim, Am Rhein, Rheinland-Pfalz, Germany Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Neuheesbert: Stone Arabia Patent, Colony Of New York Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Married 1704  Fuchsendorf, Bayreuth, Bayern, Germany Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Children 
    +1. Maria Elizabetha SEIBERT, Siver,   b. 29 Aug 1704, Lambsheim, Ger. Find all individuals with events at this location
    +2. Johann Jacob SEIBERT, Siver,   b. Abt 1707, Fuchsendorf, Bayreuth, Bayern, Germany Find all individuals with events at this location
    +3. George Jurg Adam SEIBERT,   b. 14 Dec 1715, Schoharie, New York Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Dunnsville, Town Of Guilderland, Albany, Albany Co., New York Find all individuals with events at this location
     4. John? SEIBERT, Siver
     5. Michael? SEIBERT, Siver
     6. Conradt? SEIBERT, Siver
    +7. Anna Maria SEIBERT, Siver,   b. Abt 1732, Palatine, Montgomery County, Colony Of New York Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 15 Oct 1805, Manlius, Onondaga Co., New York Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 73 years)
    +8. Johann Willem WILHEIM, Seibert,   b. 15 Nov 1721, Saltzberg, Germany Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 1 Sep 1777, Battle Of Oriskany Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 55 years)
    Last Modified 4 Sep 2015 
    Family ID F172  Group Sheet

  • Notes 

    Born:
    • Lambsheim, Bayern (Pfalz)

  • Sources 
    1. [S22] Heinrich Rembe.